watching some live footage of Converge, and there was a point in the
clip where Jacob Bannon’s hoodie is getting pulled on by a fan who is
attempting to stage dive (around 5:40). Bannon proceeds to knee the guy
in the face and then punches some other fan in the face (one can only
assume he was trying to punch the same guy that he kneed, but who
occurred to me in my more-than-15-years of listening to Metal: assault
and battery takes place at almost every decently attended Metal show.
OK, maybe not at EVERY decently attended Metal show, but at least at all
of the shows that involve some sort of moshing or any sort of physical…”interactions”?
the time), yet it has never once entered my mind that by voluntarily
(or involuntarily via my 14-year-old self at Hatebreed
shows) joining a mosh pit, I am committing a crime against my fellow
stretch of the imagination but think about it: unless you’re playing American football, it’s certainly illegal for people to run into you,
which can sometimes result in your getting knocked to the floor (aka
mosh pits). Those metalcore and hardcore guys who fly around like
ninjas doing karate kicks?* Pretty sure that’s illegal. Grabbing someone by the hair in order to toss them off stage (a la
Randy Blythe)**? Yup, illegal. Cutting someone’s throat with a knife: DEFINITELY ILLEGAL.
cameras, it’s easier than ever to record the world around you at
anytime, anywhere. Of course, “anytime” and “anywhere” also include Metal shows where people beat the shit out of each other. Thus, it is easier than ever to have irrefutable evidence that assault and/or battery took place at some random basement show in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
I find slightly surprising is that even with this type of video
technology widely available, there aren’t Metalheads suing one another (and the bands!)
left and right! I guess that means that for the most part we’re pretty chill dudes and
dudettes…who like to beat the shit out of each other.
consider other entertaining events…like baseball games. A baseball
fan is presumed to assume some risk in attendance. This is because a
“reasonably prudent person” knows what to expect at such an event. Like
a foul ball, or bat even, coming into the stands.”
OK, sure. Any “reasonably prudent” Metalhead, who has gone to more than one show, knows that mosh pits are to be expected.
“So, the question is
rather would a reasonable person take a risk in attending these type of
concerts based on the knowledge these events lead to this risk. In this
situation, it is not a subjective observation, rather, an objective
OK, makes sense. We objectively know that people will beat the shit out of each other at Metal shows. Brutal. Moving on…
“Another thing to consider is that a court may not care
about two people getting into a fight in a consensual manner. Each
party may be liable for the injuries for the other party. This can
apply in a civil and criminal court.”
Alright, courts don’t give a flying fuck about consensual moshers.
“At the end of the day we have to
hope that a court will try and make a reasonable decision, not always
the case, in which the parties are restored to where they were before
they were injured. Civil courts lacks superhuman powers, so this is
usually done through financial means.“
So if you and some other dude get your bones broken ravaging each other in the pit, you BOTH may have to pay up until you’re both not horribly disfigured.
Thanks, The Cryptic Prosecutor!
So, since one would generally expect a mosh pit to take place at a Metal show, one would make an implicit acceptance of the risk, and therefore, could not lay fault on others for moshing. If two hardcore kids get into a karate match, then chances are the court may make both parties pay for losses incurred by doctor visits or reconstructive surgeries.
*Note: Assault, by legal definition, is merely the “threat of violence”…that
is one law-related thing I do know…
**Note: Yes, I know he was not convicted. I’m not saying he killed someone, I’m saying he grabbed someone’s hair in order to remove them from the stage. This is clearly seen on many a YouTube video.